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How are Runs Really Created - Second Installment
August 26, 2002 - Ben
Excellent article!
Does the fact that an out happens to be a strikeout change it's value? It seems to me that a strikeout is more costly than any old out because runners are not advanced at all. (I know WPs and PBs can cause advance or even the batter to reach, but that's part of the WP/PB event not the strikeout event IMHO.)
Ben
Tippett and DIPS (August 1, 2003)
Discussion ThreadPosted 3:14 p.m.,
August 1, 2003
(#7) -
Ben
Personally I think that pitchers do not control the outcome of singles, but they do have some control of the outcome of extra base hits. In the words of a friend of mine: There are groundball pitchers and there are flyball pitchers, but there are no line drive pitchers.
Has anybody ever attempted to correlate something like isolated power against pitchers to see if that is consistent year over year?
Tippett and DIPS (August 1, 2003)
Posted 2:07 p.m.,
August 4, 2003
(#61) -
Ben
Zoiks! I manage to not read Primer for 2 days and look what happens!
Somebody way back in this thread suggested that using isolated power would unfairly weight HR more than 3B more than 2B. Well, I think that that is quite fair. A HR is much more costly to a pitcher than a 2B or 3B.
I do agree that park effects (particularly of the pitcher's home park) will be of great importance. It's going to be much harder for instance to put up a good isolated power number on turf where a lot of balls scoot through the gap to the wall.
I think I've pretty much convinced myself that it is a pitching skill to prevent isolated power relative to park effects etc. My question is does past performance indicate future results at all? I don't have the time or the tools to do that kind of study.
Tippett and DIPS (August 1, 2003)
Posted 2:11 p.m.,
August 4, 2003
(#63) -
Ben
oops that last one (#62) was me and I meant it to be in response to cj!