Bats Right, Throws Left (July 29, 2003)
Most Runs Produced (R+RBI-HR), for hitters batting right, and throwing left.
Last First RP birthYear
Henderson Rickey 3103 1958
Ryan Jimmy 2617 1863
Chase Hal 1864 1883
Carpenter Hick 1245 1855
Bressler Rube 1098 1894
Jones Cleon 996 1942
If there is I don't want to meet it. R and RBI are horrible team dependent and batting order dependent statistics. Subtracting HR is a dumb, dumb, dumb idea that comes about because some people think you shouldn't get credit for 2 team runs (I.e., a R and a RBI) when you hit a HR since you only score one actual team run. But actually each R and RBI is really one half a team run (i.e., player A hits a triple. Player B hits a single scoring A. A gets half the credit for the team run (scored as a R) and B gets half the credit for the team run (scored as an RBI). C now hits a HR which scores B. The team run that B scores half goes to B (scored as a R) and half goes to C (scored as an RBI). The team run that C scores has half go to C (scored as a R) and the other half also goes to C (scored as a RBI). Thus the team scored 3 team runs. And A gets credit for 0.5 of them, B gets credit for 1 of them, and C gets credit for 1.5 of them. And 0.5 + 1 + 1.5 = 3 which is nice). So even if we were to decide to use the not that great R and RBI stats we should *not* subtract the HR. Doing so and then leaving it to bat R and throw L is beyond bizarre.
Posted 11:15 a.m.,
July 30, 2003
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tangotiger
(homepage)
The list of bat R and throws L was simply to get a list of "great players" with that weird combination of handedness. The easiest listing I used was Runs Produced (though I don't subscribe to the name, I do subscribe to its idea). I could have used just runs, or just games, or just hits, or whatever. Wouldn't have made a difference.
As for subtracting the HR from R+RBI, I suggest you click the Homepage link above, and read the discussion I have with a few of the fanhome regulars. (Unfortunately, some of the data presented was lost in transition.)